In this Cooee! Podcast, I speak to Pierre Fonjallaz about his biodynamic winemaking practice on the World Heritage listed hills beside Lake Leman, Switzerland., a place where winemaking has been practiced, initially by monks, since the 12th century.

Pierre talks about the motivations to change his approach, his new 5000 year timeline for sustainability, and his discovery how - as he started implementing biodynamic processes - he began to learn from the land and the plants about other aspects of life.